Help with pricing

1. Threads are not stickied in CGT, they go down to the bottom as new threads are started, thus this thread will also disappear into the ether.

2. You can easily search for items that are in your category and price accordingly, do you offer more value or less? Price as such.

3. While I think you propose a good idea, point 1 negates this in this forum. How you suggest to overcome this?

With regards to "it´s also pointless to offer high quality items at dumping prices (nobody of us should ever do that)." right, of course, but if those who are dumping set high prices, designers with initially normal prices will have competitors. Do they need it?

In addition, those who have income from selling models at a price of 5-10$ or even less are unlikely to agree to change prices (unless there are a lot of sellers who will prove by their own examples that raising prices will increase the level of income) but many such designers will not appear because...why do they need competition?

Pricing issues could be resolved by setting price limits for different categories of models, but this is difficult to implement.

Quote: "designers with initially normal prices"
What are *******normal********** prices? :-)
you see that´s maybe the whole reason why I was asking for ideas if such a thread makes sense for vendors, who even would like to find out what is normal. In my experience normal is what the market is wanting. We as vendors, creators know the quality of own items and can estimate also the quality of the items of other vendors, and we simply talk about it, how the price for something like this or that should be.

Quote: "In addition, those who have income from selling models at a price of 5-10$ or even less are unlikely to agree to change prices "
I already wrote, those who are not interested, are out of this thread and also we who would participate won´t be interested in their methods either. I still assume we have here about 75% of vendors without any mental issues that want to survive the hard times that are ongoing with the face towards the sun and not towards own shoes. For those who like to have pain in the ass selling high quality works for 2 dollars, just let them do so! neither this thread nor a brain doctor will change that.

Also, there is ALWAYS a good reason for dumping a price, mostly it´s lack of good quality. In very rare cases it´s money, but also here you have no influence on that. It´s not about estimating of a propper dumping price! but a fair price that an item deserves.
And I talk only about vendors who truly are engaging with what they are doing for years, and just want to have neither underpriced nor overpriced models. And that´s what I call *******normal**********.

I also have an example for you!
My a380 cockpit was sold on each platform, CGTRader, Sketchfab, Renderhub, multimple times. Then suddenly a potential buyer came and shredded i with the short term "Overpriced!". I had to deactivate the comments because of that, since I would lose for sure more than 75% potential sales for that item. Now, If I would KNOW, that this item is overpriced, I even would go down without any problems. But 1 person is saying it´s overpriced is simply not enough to make any serial thoughts about item´s price. If on teh other hand 10 vendors would say, I would offer it at 60% of the price, than of course I would feel that I overestimate the asset, no matter if it sells succesfully. It is principally so easy in matter, but so complicated for me to explain, maybe I´m lacking on comprehensive english.

I would also like to share a case with you all.

I have these dumb nike balls and there was a time with sales and of course a time without (let´s put the branding problem aside, because also those branded items sell), then I just tried it out and INCREASED my prices for them like 25% and the sales started to follow immediately again.

Why?

I just assume that many buyers who are checking a new model and a new vendor suppose shitty models when prices too low. Also buyers are not stupid and come around. I mean they know of course some prices on the well known *high quality + but expensive* platform too! So, it was just a lucky punch by myself, but not an organized swarmintelligence based act. And the second one is of course much, much more valuable.

Also, one of vendors said here once on CGT, wait boy, this and this item is NOT like 15 dollars! it is PBR and that and that and it should be 50!
So I increased my price and the sales came ANYWAY! isn´t that nice :-)???

"For those who like to have pain in the ass selling high quality works for 2 dollars, just let them do so."

No problem, only if fans of two dollars models would not multiply as a chemical reagent under the action of a catalyst.

In addition to this, the practice of selling a pack (as one item) in which there are 50 (or even more) models and the price is 20-40$ is quite popular on CGT, i.e. price for one item is good, but models there are fifty in this item and the price of one comes out much less than the minimum price at two dollars. In my opinion, this is not fair and also is aggressive price dumping. How to solve this problem? Or is it not a problem at all?

"as a chemical reagent under the action of a catalyst." Oh boy :-) lt the *dumpbsters* collect their $ for the next playstation.
Do we need those sales?
I have buyers from dev who know how to exploit something. They are willing to pay more than 2 bucks.

In terms of what you describe with packs, I see it also with a tiny depression. It sometimes simply infuriates me too. Yes I agree, it is a VERY agressive methode. However, one reason for that is that even markets promote such behaviour!
I remember a review on page one on Sketchfab, where a promoted artist / vendor is even promoting this methode of selling!
If you know I can resarch the link for that.
And if once a vendor licks blood.... and it works... so yes it is a problem too of course. But should we even change our way of thinking and sell only packs now for 20-40 because of those einsteins?

As an additional incentive for good models at good prices, in my opinion, it would be nice if the first page (as well as 2, 3, etc.) updated its content. Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion this page https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?keywords= has not been updated globally for a very long time. Although, have there really been no new worthy cool models in recent years?

Sad, sad, but...
I currently start to undestand why this forum on cgt is completely BRAIN DEAD and such a stillbirth.
That was for sure my last entry on this SH***. From now on we play the ENEMY card and undercut us on every item.
Have fun!

With regards to brain death. If the forum had sections about ZBrush, 3ds max, Cinema 4D, etc., and in these sections you could get advice from artists with high skills, i.e. here I am, here is my portfolio, my lessons, paid and free, my current projects, my free materials, brushes, plugins, etc. Show your work and ask questions, we will definitely help, the situation with the forum would be much better.

But there is nothing like it. News about new products in the industry, software updates, etc. are of little interest and this will not significantly affect the activity on the forum.

The news that Joseph Drust left Pixologic and then Pixologic gets acquired by Maxon maybe would be more popular if appeared here at a time when it was relevant, but such "hot" news cannot be discussed for a long time. Therefore the result is quite natural and predictable.