No sales on CGT

Posted about 10 years ago

Hi, CGPitbull. I've just created a new account to keep myself anonymous (just a matter of "business security"). Yes, I've sold here this month, in fact, this is the best month since I've started selling models here (even almost as much as in TS). Let me show you some "generic" statistic of my sales (without exposing real values, of course):

First of all, I always keep track of my sales, in order to see if the TS exclusivity rate would be better instead of selling in multiple websites, and the result? I would've lost 6,14% of my total income if I were exclusive.

My sales since I've started selling 3D Models (I'm not an old school guy, I'm relatively new on the business): http://puu.sh/cjfEm/593ad405b5.png

What I want to say is: CGTrader is a great website, with great potential, but maybe it depends on the type of 3D Models you sell. For me, the non-exclusivity is paying off, and I don't think I'll ever be exclusive. I understand that it's the other way around if you aren't selling here, but as I've noticed, each website has a "3D model type" of which sells the most, you just have to "understand" the website.

Hope it helps. My point of view about the "issue".

Best regards.

Supercigale wrote about 10 years ago

for me , sales in CGTrader have seriously declined since the site looks like a 3D printing store .. Also, I think that organizing products into 2 categories ("Models for 3D printing" and "generic models") disturb buyers ..

anonymous-1 wrote about 10 years ago

Well, I seriously don't see any difference. It's been a long time since I've sold a 3D Printable model here, and basically all my sales are from CG models. I've seem a lot of times this issue being debated, and I agree with the administration of the website when they say the buyers know what they are looking for, aparently they don't pay much attention to the front page. All the models I've sold are from "clean profiles", therefore people who just come to the website, buy what they want, and leave. It's all about demand, and it seems to be a seasonal thing as well (as you can see above, my sales on TS have dropped a bit on the last months, while on CGT it's the other way around). It's not a predictable thing. I seriously don't think it's an issue of the front page as I always see being used as an argument.

joey-blendernut wrote about 10 years ago

Hey Alex, I just noticed some errors on you graph there... Under "What Models Sell Best" 1. Vehicle has the paw print logo on it... 2. Architectural Details is doubled, with different logos and stats... Just thought you should know ;)

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Hey Joey, thanks for a note! Didn't noticed it - thanks a lot! :) p.s. it's fixed now.

joey-blendernut wrote about 10 years ago

Sure thing! :D And awesome!!! Looks great :D

anonymous-1

Posted about 10 years ago

All the models I've sold are from "clean profiles", therefore people who just come to the website, buy what they want, and leave. It's all about demand, and it seems to be a seasonal thing as well (as you can see above, my sales on TS have dropped a bit on the last months, while on CGT it's the other way around). It's not a predictable thing.

I seriously don't think it's an issue of the front page as I always see being used as an argument.

iterateCGI

Posted about 10 years ago

Most of your models seem oriented towards low poly mobile games. This website (probably) isn't particularly well known to that type of developers community. Regardless I think it's still a good idea to use this site as your main sales platform. The hosting of your models here is completely free and you get the best royalty deals you can find on the web. Apart from that there is no blockades between you and the clients and you get a complete set of marketing tools to bring yourself and what you do to their attention (use al social media e.g. Vimeo, youtube, Twitter, Facebook, linkedin, etc.). So try to find the places where those mobile game developers hang around and make yourself visible over there (using the tools ) and link them to your models over here.

I sell models here but not so much as on Turbosquid but this place has other opportunity's like making valuable connections to people and market yourself and what you do in a way not possible on places like Ts.

FattyPants wrote about 10 years ago

Hey, Sorry to hear about your low sales! I've experienced the same thing on this site as well in recent months. The drop-off coincided with the changeover to 3D printing, although I don't know if it is related to that or not. While sales here have completely stopped, sales on TS continue to remain strong. There are several possibilities for the lack of sales that I can think of: 1.) TS continues to hold the strongest share of the market (highly likely). 2.) Cheap looking models from highly ranked members of this site are alienating potential buyers. 3.) The strong promotion of 3D printing has adversely affected the sales of traditional models on this site. 4.) Just the way things sometimes go. Good months and bad months. It should be noted, however, that this drought is so prolonged that I cannot believe #4 really has any bearing on the lack of sales I and others have commented on. The only other site that I once sold on so well and then had a complete dive-bomb in sales is the3dstudio.com, where they have had some considerable issues these past couple of years. I have abandoned all hope of ever selling on that site and have decided to remove 3D assets from there as soon as I can. I desperately want cgtrader to succeed as I really like their idea and hope for the best, but at this point, I have serious worries. :( To sum up: strongest sales continue on TS, while other sites have very few, if any sales. This site's sales dropped around the time of the promotion of printing, but I am uncertain if that has any bearing on it. OP, I hope your sales drought ends. Happy sales to all and best wishes, Dan

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Strongly agree with iterateCGI. Here you have a possibility to build your own portfolio of your CG works and it's a great place to link people to just see your work. Your public profile could generate even more deals if great numbers are shown there. :) If you have tons of followers, that would positively affect first opinion about you.

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Hi Dan, Interesting insights you got there. 1. Somewhat agree with that. 2. 3D models browser should filter best models and put them on top. We are still developing formula for this (in progress). 3. It's not about 3D printing, it's more about some of important SEO bugs we had, when new version was launched. Don't want to agree that 3D printing affects sales of CG models, moreover, numbers of transactions are growing - it's a fact. 4. Like everywhere, for everyone. :) To sum up: we are growing, and this process would be faster with your help guys. :) Cheers Alex

FattyPants wrote about 10 years ago

Alex, Thank you for your nice comment. I hope that my response did not in any way seem to imply that I didn't feel happy to be on this site. I love CGT and really want it to succeed. If there's any way we artists can support you in that effort, please continue to let us know. It's just a worry sometimes. :) Dan

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Dan, All feedback is needed. :) Alex

joey-blendernut

Posted about 10 years ago

Yes, I've sold a few models on here actually ;)

Alex

Posted about 10 years ago

Hey guys. I dropped some interesting points in comments so feel free to read. :)

Meanwhile I suggest to read this on if you still didn't: https://www.cgtrader.com/blog/infographic-exclusive-data-on-how-to-sell-3d-models.

Alex

joey-blendernut wrote about 10 years ago

THANKS SOOOO MUCH FOR THE CHART ALEX! :D It's amazing! And may be just the inspiration I need! :D

NoneCG

Posted about 10 years ago

We are not into 3D print business, but as I mentioned in this other thread : https://www.cgtrader.com/forum/topics/what-makes-cg-trader-better-than-turbosquid

Comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that).

I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt.

It's been known for years that joining the Squid Guild and being exclusive to Turbosquid equals losing money:

http://3dstocktalk.home.pl/3dstocktalk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1163

Studio-Lab

Posted about 10 years ago

I have 60 models for sale here and have 0 sales since I started :( I am going to likely remove my assets from here early next year and sell them exclusively on turbosquid where I regularly sell other 3d models. CG trader is no doubt a great site but my work is just not required by its customer base unfortunately.

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Hey man, it's sad that you don't have any sales here, but I want to point out something that's very important and rely only on you. 1. Some of your models (same category, subcategory) are with duplicated title, let's say I see that there are bunch of models with title "cannon", "wood plier", "wood harbour", "dead tree". That definitely doesn't help buyers to find your models well on Google and CGTrader as well. My suggestion: put some more words to titles, like "Desert dead tree", "Forest dead tree", "WW1 was cannon", "Napoleon cannon", "Ship cannon", "Modular church with a tower", "German style modular church" so on and so on. 2. Your models doesn't seem very well presented when I look at them in a browser through a bunch of other game ready models. Let's say If I look for "dead tree", I see these results: http://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?keywords=dead+tree. As you see there are better presented models if you scroll down, because if you want to buy, you buy a picture. Look at these models: http://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/plant-tree/leaf-tree/30-dead-tree-models-for-games http://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/plant-tree/other/stump-and-mushrooms My suggestion would be to put somekind of background visualisation to the model maybe, some shadows or other things that will create your style as a designer. 3. Put collections of cannons, trees, churches. I'm not a designer myself, so trying to look at it as a buyer. Hope this helps. Cheers Alex

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Double message.

Studio-Lab wrote about 10 years ago

Cheers for your thoughts alex, I added a couple of more interesting images to the train and church from our current next gen game project to see if it has any impact. We sell a lot of work on turbosquid presented as it is on a daily basis and never understood why we have 0 sales on here. I would have all of our assets for sale on here as well but it makes no sense for us to lose the extra 20% commission for only selling on turbosquid for a 0% gain here. I think this is a great site and really appreciate what cg trader is doing for the community. Hopefully in time it will take a larger % of sales in the 3d market place.

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Hope something helps. I see your concern here and I can only tell that we are trying to make this place more attractive and easily reachable for those guys who are buying 3D assets. I always remember Nonecg statement and statistics about TS SG and profit in a mid-long run comparing to profit which comes from TS and other platforms as well. That is something to read for all who are considering moving all models to one place there. Not trying to convince you, as only you guys know what's best for you. :) I'll look at game-ready models and what are our positions there -- maybe I'll find something interesting to share. CGTrader will definitely take a larger percent of sales. Meanwhile we are taking it each month, ofc can't share the numbers but we are on the right way. :) Thanks again for being on board. Alex

Studio-Lab wrote about 10 years ago

Hi Alex, I have been putting more assets up to see if it has any effect having spoken about this with you. I am having issues publishing a current item though and wonder if you might be able to look into this for me. I do hope that with my adding more items I will eventually see some sales here. Best regards

Alex wrote about 10 years ago

Hey man, what is the issue? Alex

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