Most recent cheats

These people that steal models and then resell them for $2 are not only cheating, but also not very smart. They must think that selling something for such a low price will bring in a bunch of fast sales, but that's not how things tend to work. You would still need to sell over a dozen of those models to reach the minimum payout before you are caught. There's no such thing as "fast cash" in this business. When will they learn?

@luxxeon, not all CGT collection systems need a minimum amount, nor do all cheats sell their models that cheap. The current trend is to raise prices, always below the price of the original model, (except in phantom sales). For example, some of the dismjuist models are on sale for between $ 35 and $ 50. The female models of antaress and daniel87, which are from DAZ, are on sale for between $ 65 and $ 75, and the 2 vehicles of huuthi192, which are from HUM3D, for $ 50 and $ 70. These 2 identical models, published a little over a month apart (I think the author is Evermotion)

Posted by 3dexplore 2 days ago, on sale for $ 14:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/house/exterior-house-scene-b4d4001d-d21d-4574-9e79-3ff31e0ca27d

Posted by mariaenzarnacion almost 2 months ago, on sale for $ 90:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/house/home-exterior-d4bfe750-6101-41b9-b314-e8c113b23c96

In this other model, which sells for $ 65, the 3dsky logo is partially seen in the image:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/bedroom/bed-room-1ddb9c17-09f3-4e97-82c8-9c928fdab167

at 3dsky the pro models sell for $ 7.

Curiously, a model that this user sold, (mariaenzarnacion) for $ 85, on a pirated page where it was previously published, says that the author is MaiHanh, of whom another user mentioned here (namcryber) also has models. The other 3dexplore models are also of the classic models, already deleted by many users.

This other model, released yesterday by architecttr (his only model), on sale for $ 50:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/bedroom/bedroom-scene-a2c624d8-d65d-46a0-a6b7-b00cbfdbf3c6

also has the user scene-pro, published in February and for sale for $ 58:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/bedroom/master-bedroom-tropical-b263493f-4abf-41d8-9720-8f0d0d0b1003

Neither of the 2 is the original author, because the rest of this user's models are also from the classic stolen models (with items from Evermotion, 3dsky ..) and he sells them for $ 48 to $ 76.

It seems that there are fewer and fewer people who dedicate themselves to making models, (especially quality ones) and more people who dedicate themselves to stealing them, that's why more and more, the same stolen models are repeated over and over again.

@PhantomDesign, they are in a hurry to collect their loot, before they are unmasked and expelled.

Note. External links seem to no longer work in the forum.

Cheaters will remain cheaters whole life.
,,It takes a cheater to beat a cheater.'' (quote)

They're not cheaters, they're thieves and scums.

I agree, things must be called by name, the one who sells stolen models, is a thief who knows perfectly well what he is doing. And it's only a matter of time before I do it again. So I do not understand that CGT consents that they are still here. I'm talking about a user who has been removed twice for it, and who also breaches the exclusivity agreement with another market. CGT knows about these circumstances, but has decided not to eliminate this user, only because at the moment it does not have stolen models (or it may have, but after 2 times of being eliminated it will have been smart and will have better hidden the evidence). The models have not been removed because the thief has repented, they were removed at the request of the original author. Allowing these users is to be tolerant of fraud, a lack of respect for those who suffer theft of their work and very very bad for reputation. That's why you don't see new talented artists around here (that there are), and those that do end up migrating, because patience has a limit. The same is true of buyers.

"female models of antaress and daniel87, which are from DAZ, are on sale for between $ 65 and $ 75" - that's not only stealing as well trying to make a big
rip-off (the most expensive character models which are usually DAZ originals are normally sold for a bit less than 50$ on their website).
Same with all those morphed reallusion characters coming up very often on here anyone can create by her-/himself with the right tools.

It must be the growing disrespect of other people's lives, belongings,
their achievements and other people (including authorities).
Not only here but generally in society (e.g. as seen in nearly every news or outside in the streets nowadays) making it go back to like stone age times.

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/standard/tesla-model-3-2447224b-c595-4af7-aec1-f4d356f2775d

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/standard/tesla-model-3-2018

Every model on this profile is stolen, this one is stolen from Squir...

@Mineral3d This is what it looks like when they are trying to make big...

They are heavly modified models , that's why he/she isn't caught for long time. If you look closely with you trained eyes you will see quiet a lot exactly the same shapes in topology. Seats are from another model wich I already sent as proof to support.

https://ibb.co/Lt8LctP

@ Mineral3D I have seen DAZ models put up for sale (and sold multiple times) for $ 150, from a user who has been removed 2 times. All models of the user were removed at the request of DAZ but not the user and although CGT said that user could not be used again, the truth is that it was used and spent almost a year selling the same models that had been removed. I have also seen 2 other users, with more than 200 models each, (and numerous sales), who also had almost all models removed (all of which were from DAZ), also at the request of DAZ. They sold them as printables, with DAZ poses and accessories (wings, for example) and after modifying them minimally they republished them (and doubled their reputation). They are still here.

@PhantomDesign, the case of vehicles is the most difficult to prove because it is logical that they apparently look alike. In the first case, it showed that many similarities are noted in some areas of the topology (poles placed in the same position), but there are also different areas, making it 100% impossible to say that it is the same. In those cases, even if they were actually derived from those models, as in the DAZ model modifications, even with a claim from the owner, CGT will not do anything. That's why DAZ and vehicle models are the most pirated.

https://ibb.co/r2yQvDm

Red: similiarities
Blue: modification
Yellow: different subdivision (the squir model that is circuling around internet is in it's lowest polycount so you can change couple of edges and than do subdivision)
Orange: parts from another model

There is more, is just that they can't be see on this picture. Of course these are all coincidence, and also is coincidence that this guy have forza motorsport 7 , forza horizon 3-4 models on sale wich I already reported with solid proof.

I just tried to help and make this place better. I won't bother anymore to post thieves on forum.

good work @PhantomDesign. Simple cases of lazy thieves are easy to spot, but there are others that camouflage very well. I think that if CGT did a thorough analysis like the one you have done, many others could be unmasked. Unfortunately CGT is not interested, (that is why it allows models to be published without displaying the mesh), or is tolerant of other cases already mentioned, nor does it have the resources to do so. Contrary to what @nexstosico quotes, I think that in this case, to beat a cheater, you don't need a cheater, you need more people like you. Together we can eliminate those who steal and take advantage of the models of others.

Feature suggestion - i think cgtrader could inplement automatic wireframe rendering for all models hwere that's technically possible and add them to the preview images. It shouldn't be hard to do this and i know for sure that they are more than capable to do this. Such feature not only would help easier identify stolen/cloned models, but also would be very helpful to regular buyers.

Very good idea, for me it is very sad to see models so poorly presented, without images, without model information, without description ... I would be ashamed to present my work so poorly, and if I were a buyer I would NEVER buy those models, for very cheap they are.

Looks like a witch-hunt of people not having wireframe pictures.
Not all models published where a mesh isn't shown are stolen since on many stores it is common not to show meshes.
If a product consists of several models it can be quiet a lot of meshes to show nor would it prevent people of stealing.
I don't for my models at the moment cause I don't see the sense in it.
If asked to do so - no problem - will do when I've got time.
That's why I keep native zbrush/GIMP/substance painter/iclone project files in case proof is needed.

Finished DAZ products have my nickname encrypted in data files everyone can read inside DAZ Studio, iclone models are merged together in a way one would have a hard time to change something.
So these are good ways as well to prevent theft.

I think a good description and all points like polycount if it's rigged, PBR, etc. should be filled out.
So it might be a better idea to provide screenshots of native data though.
Putting inventive names on products / models might a good way to prevent theft as well.

I could write on but have to drive to work now....

Good idea of LemonadeCG and good counter-argument of Mineral 3d. I pressed "arrow up" for both.
I think adding the USEFUL visual and descriptive information need to be reflected on "publishing score" (for the start). At this moment publishing score depends more on bullshit than on useful and informative actions... It can be the stimulus for designers and it need to give more chances to designer to be vieved/exposed/sold.

And another open idea: we are living in the era of the dawn of AI-technologies. Face recognition, image analysis, "deep learning"... I think it can be relatively easy implemented to analysis of 3d-models to compare (by using many methods starting from checksum and further to compare meshes as they are, compare voxelized models to find similarities in proportions etc... it's nearly the same as pretty old technologies of restoring, aligning and registering 3d-scanned data) etc... it's very ambitious and complex idea. But when somebody will made similar system it can be very useful and can have good commercial perspective and implementation... Sad I'm not programmer/coder :)))

@ Mineral3D, not a witch hunt. On the one hand I think that the topology is very important, especially in animation models, the flow of loops, the placement of the poles, make the difference. For example, 2 connected poles or a megapole can cause tension to the mesh, which results in bad deformations or artifacts in the render. On the other hand, most of the times the mesh is not shown, it is with the intention of hiding evidence, because the model is stolen. Thieves are lazy and it is easier to hide the mesh than to have to modify it. Of course there may be exceptions, as with the DAZ models, which do not usually show the mesh of their products, but in other areas, especially years ago, if you did not show the mesh, no one valued your work. Completing the information (number of vertices ...) helps the buyer to decide if the model fits his needs. The impression of seeing such a poorly presented work without detailed information ... is that the author does not care about his work. And if you do not worry about doing a good job, in the part that is seen at first glance and without more information available, the logical thing is to think that what is not seen will not be good either. Your proposals are very good, I hope you will develop them when you have time.

@ skapricorn, your proposals are also very good. The current scoring system is totally corrupted and useless. Many publish the same image up to hundreds of times, and copy the description from wikipedia, to get more points, but do not include the slightest model information. Others say the model is rigged or animated, but they also don't include any poses or animations. Those features are automatically approved just by checking the appropriate boxes, but the buyer is likely to be disappointed if they buy the model "blindly." Shoppers with a bad experience might not bother asking for a refund (time is more valuable than low prices), but they probably won't buy anything here again. Those who take the trouble to do a good job should be rewarded, with a higher score, because that would also attract quality buyers and would be beneficial to everyone, including CGT. The other idea is also very good, but as you say it is more ambitious, it would be a great achievement, which would make CGT stand out. Hopefully these proposals are taken into account. As @LemonadeCG said, I think they are capable of doing it, but I don't know if they would be willing.

The poles are necessary (vertices connected to 3 or 5 edges), they are the ones that mark the path of the loops. If there are no poles, the mesh is very gridded. But it is not good that 2 poles are connected to the same edge. A megapole is a vertex connected to more than 5 edges. On flat surfaces they do not give problems. Also avoid distorted faces more than 45º, especially when using subdivision.

Can you explain about the encrypted nickname? You can also include a text, lost in some line of the .obj file or in the text console of .blend files

Thanks for the explanation. So far I always thought poles are the central points / vertices on caps of cylinders and spheres. And that these should be avoided whenever possible. These are those megapoles then.

If you hover with your cursor over any object inside DAZ Studio's "Content Library" a popup - window displaying "File Name", "Author" and "File" appears.
The author name is the nickname of the creator on her/his DAZ website account. It gets stored automatically with other data like Vendor name, ERC (Enhanced Remote Control) - controls, morphs, etc. in files inside the "data" directory (is created automatically once you save your figure, asset).
These can be saved uncompressed (so anyone can read/edit them) or compressed (you won't be able to read them). Last usually is done at final release.
My name there is "Mineral". Actually wanted that one on here as well but
it was taken already at that time nor I wanted to change it on my DAZ account.

Also file info like creation date, date of modification (if changes have to be done) are displayed (which can help proof).

That's no full protection against thieves off course (any object could be exported and imported again). But possible thieves would have to set up all shaders, weight mapping again and create a new armature then setup ERC and whatever is included again.

@ Mineral3D, thanks for the explanation. Although it is not a total protection, it sounds interesting, but still the DAZ models are among the most pirated. No wonder it is, because I think they have high quality models.

More thieves who have posted models this week:

User: 3dBulk

26 days old user and 71 published models, stolen from various authors.

1.- stolen model, for sale for $ 8:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/plant/pot-plant/bush-plant-decorative-set-on-shelf

Original author Deckorator, for sale for $ 12 from 04-11-2018:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/other/rack-with-the-decor-of-figurines-and-plants-43dbd323-721a-42bd-b9c1-611f5dd1ea01

2.- Stolen model, (previously deleted by many users), for sale for $ 5:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/other/stuffed-toy-5-bears

Posted by another cheater, chemso59, on 02-03-2019, on sale for $ 11 (with 1 sale):

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/sports/toy/realistic-children-teddy-bears

Original author 3Dmodels_rumeli, for sale for $ 65 from 06-21-2015:

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/family-3ds/939370

3.- Models of hospital material (14 models), for sale for $ 6 each and $ 38 the collection:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-model-collections/hospital-equipment-device-collection

Original author CGAxis, on sale for $ 99 the complete collection:

https://cgaxis.com/product/cgaxis-models-volume-55-3d-medical/

4.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 8:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/bathroom/bathroom-accessories-set-acca5a60-4f33-4057-b18d-2808796d0fee

Original author Nice pictures, on sale for $ 74 since March 2018:

https://www.turbosquid.com/en/3d-models/3d-model-bathroom-accessories-6-1272037

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User: iLovemodelling (funny name for a model thief)

User with 102 models, 25 days old and at least 1 sale, with models extracted from games: League Of Legends, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Deadfall Adventures, LostField and others ...

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User: 3DAnimalModel

Probably a repeat user, 4 months old (02-27-2020) Dinosaurs from The Stomping Land game, recently deleted by PansyArt and jacki-rulit

1.- The description of this model says it all:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/bird/dragon-tranist

2.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 45

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/dinosaur/austroraptor-3d-model-with-animation-game-ready

Original author Vlad Konstantinov, for the game The Stomping Land (since 2014):

https://www.behance.net/gallery/17989751/Austroraptor-The-Stomping-Land

3.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 50:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/dinosaur/puertasaurus-dinosaur-3d-model-with-animation-game-ready

Original author Vlad Konstantinov, for the game The Stomping Land (since 2014):

https://www.behance.net/gallery/13521117/Puertasaurus-The-Stomping-Land

4.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 55:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/dinosaur/carnotaurus-dinosaur-3d-model-with-animation-game-ready

Original author Vlad Konstantinov, for the game The Stomping Land (since 2014):

https://www.behance.net/gallery/13521253/Carnotaurus-The-Stomping-Land

5.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 45:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/dinosaur/tyrannosaurus-3d-model-with-animation-game-ready
Original author Vlad Konstantinov, for the game The Stomping Land (since 2014):

https://www.behance.net/gallery/16223571/Tyrannosaurus-The-Stomping-Land

6.- Not only the models are stolen, also the background images (the previous model has a watermark on the image) and the image of this other model:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/animals/fish/basilosaurus

is the property of Gene Raz von Edler:

https://www.deviantart.com/ellysiumn/art/The-Seeker-764506476

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User: eminbozgeyik27

A young promise, 16 years old (prohibited by internal regulations and the law), 6 days old and 9 stolen or free models (as he himself says, he recently started this business)

1.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 65:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/sport/audi-r8-643cf222-456b-49cd-b157-201c3abb4637

Author exoodus12, free since May 2017:

https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/car/luxury/audi-r8-dccd0672-d1be-452b-b11e-7494a6a33efb

The rest of the models appear in links to pirated pages, even the images have been used in real news pages, related to those weapons, or printable weapons forums.

Conclusion: thieves abound and stolen models are quite repeated. Some of these models are up to 10 years old. They are bad symptoms for the market. If there is no remedy, we go straight to disaster.

@luxxeon, thanks. Detecting them is easy, at least to most. The complicated thing seems to be, that CGT does not let them re-enter and that they comply with their own rules and the law. People don't seem to realize that this is a business, with legal responsibilities. And that infringing copyright and profiting from it is a crime, which can carry administrative and even criminal penalties (jail). Allowing minors to open accounts is yet another infraction and all responsibility lies with CGT. If CGT does not solve these problems, the solution will have to be found elsewhere, but these situations must end now, one way or another. Enough of shrugging and resigning. Enough already, giving long and good words, but not solutions, because in the meantime the offenders and CGT fill their pockets at the expense of the work of others. Another new thief, less than a month old and 20 stolen models, has released another Evermotion vehicle today:

Stolen model, for sale for $ 22:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/sport/tesla-high-details

Evermotion original model, for sale for $ 60:

https://evermotion.org/shop/show_product/car-2-hdmc6/13062

The rest of their models, of course, are also stolen, many of them are from 3dsky, but it is more difficult to find them in 3dsky than in the many pirated pages they have been in for a long time (the links on those pages are better located in the searches). In some it is not necessary to look, it is already seen in the logo of the image, like this one by Voskresenski Vladislav:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/architectural/decoration/french-glass-cloche-starry-star-light

or this of DITIM:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/architectural/lighting/ross-light-lamp-wood

Another new thief (user racevinia), 10 days old and 26 stolen models.

1.- Stolen model, published today and for sale for $ 4 (you can clearly see who the author is):

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/suv/auto-w-motors

Original Hum3d author, for sale for $ 95:

https://hum3d.com/3d-models/w-motors-lykan-hypersport-2012/

2.- Stolen model for sale for $ 2:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/other/sculpture-d9692c61-28b0-49e0-aedc-105188e52d50

Original author Evermotion, for sale for 10.87 each mask:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/architectural/decoration/colorful-african-mask

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/household/other/african-tribal-mask--2

3.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 4:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/vehicle/military/war-machine-fe084b05-7181-4a19-895c-9d9b2ca72813

Original author Evermotion, on sale for $ 20:

https://evermotion.org/shop/show_product/military-1-am84-archmodels/4407

4.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 2.80:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/vehicle/motorcycle/motorcycle-60f5123a-b721-4676-9a20-e5d4d682d81f

Again the original author is Evermotion, on sale for $ 30.18:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/vehicle/motorcycle/red-dirt-bike

5.- Stolen model, for sale for $ 4:

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/military/gun/gun-gun-dbcebd07-c6bd-4d9a-ba9e-c81dfc1337b5

Original Hum3d author, for sale for $ 95:

https://hum3d.com/3d-models/colt-m4a1-with-m203/

Unfortunately there is much to report and the work accumulates, the first mentioned in this thread, I sent them on Wednesday and they have not yet fallen. They have to find an effective and permanent solution to this problem because it is getting out of hand. Having to use resources, in eliminating the same cheats over and over again, with the same repeated models, is not doing things well and has repercussions. If they solved this problem once and for all, they could use the resources to improve the web, because even pirated pages work better than CGT lately. Nor is it advisable to anger honest sellers and buyers who are scammed by buying those stolen models, because they will end up losing both of them and also their good reputation (all very difficult to recover, as they surely know, although it does not seem so).

I have not seen that any of the cheats mentioned here have an account in TS or 3dexport (although I have seen others, who are waiting to be eliminated). It is painful to look at the new models that are published in CGT daily, (new here, not in the pirated pages from which they come). And it is also a pity that the few good and original models that are published go unnoticed, buried among the mobs of trash models and because of bad practices, used by unscrupulous sellers to improve the scoring of their models, (including votes to their own models, by their multiple clones, something that shouldn't be allowed either.)

Come on, in addition to resting well, they have to charge the batteries and even develop superpowers, because the situation requires it.

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/standard/tesla-model-3-2447224b-c595-4af7-aec1-f4d356f2775d

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/standard/tesla-model-3-2018

They removed the tesla that I posted couple posts earlier , but seller stays...

Just for my dear friend LemonadeCG

https://www.cgtrader.com/motos

I do not know if they will be mafias, but it is true that there are many thieves from China, India, Turkey, Vietnam ... and countries that are not characterized by their respect for copyright and industrial property. I have also seen many accounts that were clearly used for money laundering. Although there are new additions, (such as the 16-year-old user mentioned in this thread), many of them are repeat offenders, who reappear on numerous occasions. The blame of course, and the responsibility lies with the markets like CGT, which consent. They are too tolerant of these thieves and if they do not help, it may be their downfall.

I also take this opportunity to say that Daniel87 and Antaress, are the same person and have eliminated the evidence in CGT (not in other markets), before being eliminated. They are not only thieves, they also use different information in the different profiles (falsehood in a commercial document). I hope CGT does the right thing and removes them. Because although they have removed the evidence, they are thieves. DAZ has also been informed. The authorities will also be informed of all these irregularities.

CGT once again demonstrates its poor honesty and high tolerance for thieves, by not eliminating users Daniel87 and Antaress, who have been faster at eliminating evidence, than CGT solving the report, which does not invalidate that it is a thief . Respect must be earned and you have lost mine.