Marmoset Viewer could not initialize
Discussion started by aronimandikromo
Hello everyone,
I got a question/problem here. i really like tho showcase my 3D models and i have been learning how to use the Marmo toolbag so people could interact with my models.
But after uploading the file the viewer works fine for 5-10 min. but then it would just give an error when loading the model. "Marmoset viewer could not inatialize"
anyone knows why this happens? and how i can fix this?
on the desktop app the file works just fine.
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Marmoset Viewer isn't working on the majority of models I've purchased the license for on the CGTrader site, yet it works fine elsewhere. I reported this to CGT a couple of weeks ago (with five examples, screen shots etc) but am yet to see a fix. As someone working predominantly in 2D the MV is a great tool for me, when it works (screen capturing what I want). In fact this preview is more valuable to me than the model itself! I'd really like to see a fix to this problem. :(
You're right pbr3d, Marmoset Viewer using Edge as the browser works fine! I cannot over state how useful this is for me in accessing the graphics of models I've purchased the licenses for, thanks champ you're a legend!
I know this doesn't fix the issue for modellers wanting their models displayed across all browsers, but hopefully once CGT know it's a browser issue, they can sort out a fix... I'll let em know.
Great to hear that works for you nielmoore :) fingers crossed it will get fixed too, it's also not a problem I have with any of my models on turbosquid so it definitely seems to be browser and site related, possibly even something as simple as an outdated backend.
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I've contacted CGT support to let them know it's a browser issue (thanks again pbr3d!) I'd imagine the tech heads at firefox, chrome, IE etc will be able to sort out where the conflict lies once they're alerted to it. If CGT don't do it, I'll contact the tech folk for the above browsers directly myself. A solution it seems isn't far away!
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https://marmoset.co/support/viewer/
Read this guys there is a line under troubleshooting.
Thanks for the link, I'll paste the contents here for anyone else to read.
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From https://marmoset.co/support/viewer/ (thanks to urisaki for the link)
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This message will be displayed when a variety of errors occur, such as:
“PACKAGE FILE (SCENE.MVIEW) COULD NOT BE RETRIEVED.”
This means that the file could not be found, or that there was a server-side problem loading the file. To troubleshoot:
Make sure you have uploaded both the .mview file and the .html file to your server.
Make sure the path to the .mview file in the .html file is correct. If you’ve moved the .mview file to a different directory, you will need to update the path.
If you’ve done the two steps above and continue to have problems loading your file you may need to enable cross-origin resource sharing on your web server. Many servers have CORS disabled by default. If you do not have access to server-side settings, try contacting support for your web host.
If there is no way to enable CORS on your web host, the easiest way to share your art will be via ArtStation.
“PLEASE CHECK TO ENSURE YOUR BROWSER HAS SUPPORT FOR WEBGL.”
This means that your device and/or browser do not support WebGL. To troubleshoot:
Make sure you’re using a web browser that supports WebGL. Most modern browsers such as Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer and Safari support WebGL.
Check that you have the latest version of your browser installed.
Confirm that you have the latest version of your video card drivers installed.
If you’re using a beta version or special build of your web browser, try the latest public release instead.
Make sure WebGL is enabled in your browser’s settings. Some browsers such as Safari may have WebGL disabled by default. For more details visit https://get.webgl.org/.
“THIS .MVIEW FILE IS FROM AN OUT-OF-DATE BETA VERSION OF TOOLBAG. PLEASE RE-EXPORT IT WITH THE NEW VERSION. THANKS!”
This error means that something major has changed with Marmoset Viewer’s code, which has broken backwards compatibility. Re-exporting your scene should fix the problem. This error will only be seen with content exported from the early beta version.
“PACKAGE FILE COULD NOT BE READ OR IS INVALID.”
This means that there was some sort of problem reading the file. The file may be corrupt, in which case:
Re-upload the file, or if your upload is still in progress, wait for it to finish and refresh the page.
Re-export and re-upload the file.
If that doesn’t fix it, it may simply be a file not found error (depending on how your web host handles 404s). Try the steps listed above in the “Package file could not be retrieved.” section.
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Good day to you, gentlemen!
Joined CGTrader a couple of days ago, now facing the very same issue. Which is worrying, since the discussion is over half a year old and the problem is still in it's original state and quite persistent.
I sincerely believe this is an issue with CGTrader's servers (or those that are responsible for storing Marmoset previews for the website) and not with browsers we use or any of our local stuff.
Here's why I believe that: after re-uploading both .HTML and .MVIEW files (that Marmoset Toolbag generates when exporting a Viewer file) to CGTrader, everything loaded perfectly on all browsers on multiple laptops and smartphones, which weren't connected to each other by any means (asked a friend from another country to help XD). However, as it was previously stated, after a couple of minutes (5, maybe 10), it all goes black everywhere with the same error, which I'm sure we've all seen too many times now :) PACKAGE FILE COULD NOT BE RETRIEVED and all that jazz. After a couple of hours the Viewer file randomly succeeded to load on one phone with Samsung's internal browser (nowhere else) and then went dark again.
Maybe I'm not a 100% accurate with my little experiment, but to me it's convincing enough that it is CGTrader's side that's causing the trouble. No matter the details why it really happens, the sad truth is: *CGTrader's Marmoset Viewer feature is basically unusable because of it's inconsistency.*
Pity it's like that, I was really excited to join CGTrader partly because of the ability to embed Marmoset previews (cause Marmoset Toolbag is awesome for real-time PBR rendering). Since CGTrader's tech support hasn't solved the issue yet, I'm guessing it's either extremely complex or it's not a priority for them at the moment.
In any case, I guess a semi-reasonable thing to do at the moment would be to render-out videos of turntables in Marmoset and then upload to YouTube or Vimeo and use those as a temporary substitute. It sucks, but it's something, right? :) If anyone has a better understanding of the situation or a better alternative, please do not hesitate to share your thoughts, I believe all of CGTrader's PBR folks would be extremely grateful, myself included ;)
That was a good experiment, I'm also certain that it's a server side issue as I can upload the same Mview to both Turbosquid and CGtrader, and it will work fine on Turbosquid.
It's a shame no Cgtrader staff have noticed or replied to this thread to help clear things up, or give us an ETA on when it will be fixed. All we can do is keep talking about it, as more and more members reply to this thread it will become more obvious that it's definitely not a localised issue.
User neilmoore-2000 in this thread has claimed to have contacted CGTrader support staff directly about this issue, and something tells me he isn't the only one to do that over the course of 6 months, maybe more. And yet nothing transpired. It's not really possible for them to have no clue about this discussion's existence, is it? Probably the server trouble goes much deeper than just a simple fix. I'll give a go writing CGTrader support a letter, maybe they'll give somewhat of an comprehensive answer. I'll report back if I catch something :)
I'll give that a try when I come across the next one that doesn't work. It's strange how randomly it happens.
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I noticed something. In the error message, there is an URI for the file the viewer tried to load. Example:
https://cgtfiles.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/files/2047441/Corporate%20Man.mview?X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Date=20210103T162207Z&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJAIWBP4YJ3PPYJKA/20210103/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=a8c650e40361856ad2724256af458f556a3df093d05517731843e5e41a82f79a
If you use this request, you get an xml with the error "AccessDenied" and the message "Request has expired". So I removed the whole query part and now this works:
https://cgtfiles.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/files/2047441/Corporate%20Man.mview
You can then download this file and view it in the standalone marmoset viewer.
I don't know if you have control over this URI. If you have, make sure it does not expire.
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I've been in touch with CGTrader about this issue multiple times over several months. They say they're aware of it and are working on the problem, but as nothing ever changes it's safe to assume it's beyond them.
Even tho the issue is clearly with CGTrader, I nevertheless contacted the technical support folk at Marmoset Viewer to see if they could help but got no response whatsoever. I assume since it's clearly not their problem, they're not interested.
However breadhajo's (above) solution does in fact appear to work! I'll send this bit of info to the CGTrader tech folk to see if it can be applied to fixing the problem more broadly, rather than having to apply the "fix" individually every time someone wants to open a marmoset viewer file that won't load. Obviously a proper fix is still needed for all you modellers wanting to consistently display your work via Marmoset Viewer... But for anyone wanting to open a broken CGTrader MV file, for now at least breadhajo's method works.
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For anyone like me who's not terribly technical, here's further clarification on how breadhajo's fix works.
Copy and paste the following line into your browser:
https://cgtfiles.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/files/2047441/Corporate%20Man.mview
This will open MV with a cartoon man featured. I tried simply using MV as it's installed on my PC, but that didn't work, but copying and pasting the link as described above worked fine.
Next, go File (top left screen) and Open, to open another window. In this new window in the box titled "File name", type in the top line of the error message that came up when trying to open the model with the error message on Marmoset Viewer. I couldn't find a way to highlight and capture the line so it appears you have to type the line in manually, obviously starting with https:
Type in everything exactly as it appears in that first line, right up to the ? mark... (leave that out tho). before clicking on the Open tab.
After a short load time the model that refused to open on CGTraders site now opens perfectly.
I've checked this with a few models that had the MV problem and this fixed things each time so hopefully it's a fix for all such files, albeit a somewhat inelegant one!
Many thanks breadhajo, it's people like you that keep this world spinning!
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I'm encouraged by the discovery today that virtually all models I've had problems with in the past, now seem to open just fine using CGT's Marmoset Viewer. It's still not functioning at 100%, but for me at least it's now pretty close to it. My suspicion is the link to a MV app external to CGT (as described by breadhajo above) has led the CGT team to examining their MV app, and fixing it. Whatever the case, things have improved dramatically for me, hopefully this is the case for others as well.
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POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!!
Hey Everyone!
Im not sure if this solution will help but after a few hours of trial and error i figured out that the model view file needs to be hosted on a web service (Preferably Dropbox) with the file being DOWNLOADABLE and PUBLIC; using that link for marmoset to read should fix the problem...
If anyone needs further help I've written an article which you can checkout down below on ways to create, host and customise your toolbag view scene and html files!
https://www.thivolan-art.com/post/how-to-set-up-marmoset-viewer
ALSO, for the love of all thats holy; if you have the same problem just upvote the main comment or solutions instead of saying ,"yeah me too." that just gives people reading the section more stuff to read through and possibly not find the solution...
And if anyone has alternate solutions let me know so i can update the article
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