How do you fight piracy and unauthorized use of our 3d models.

Discussion started by NikolaDoes3d

Hey guys.

As someone who does 3d modeling as a passion, and to make a few bucks on the side, it is super demotivating to see my models used by customers however they please.

All my models come with an editorial license which prevents any commercial use, which includes reselling stl files or 3d printed figures.
Still, I constantly see my models/figures sold on various sites like etsy, wallapop(Spain), shopee(Vietnamese)... without my authorization. What is worse is that site owners won't take those items down, or even if they do, the seller can still re-upload the item without any repercussions.
There are also sites like "figureout3d (Bangladesh)" which is personally owned where there is no chance for an item to get removed.

What is even worse is that many of those listings are above mine when you search Google and are sold for many times less than what I am selling on cgtrader. Reducing my sales even further.

I am interested to know if there is anything much more I can do? I could use some advice.

Simply put, I am thinking about stopping producing STL files for good. Even though there is money to be made, I am not sure it is worth losing sleep over it.

Answers

Posted 10 months ago
1

You file a DMCA takedown notice:
https://www.dmca.com/FAQ/How-can-I-file-a-DMCA-Takedown-Notice

NikolaDoes3d wrote
NikolaDoes3d
It is definitely worth a try. Thanks! Edit: there seem to be three pricing options: 1. full service takedown (199$ per site) 2. Webmaster DIY takedown (10$ per month) 3. Free professional review Which option to use? The middle one seems most reasonable (price-wise), though I don't have any experience using DMCA takedown.
Posted 10 months ago
1

I think your biggest "problem" is that you're making exceptionally good models that are in high demand and they are very lucrative to unscrupulous people. You may try to go DMCA route, but this will cost you money and more important your time. You will be forced to play this whack-a-mole game, that you have no chance to win. Maybe consider stopping selling digital files and start producing printed miniatures and selling them by yourself. That way it would be much harder for thieves to steal your hard work. They still can try to reverse engineering your prints, but this requires much effort and skill and the end result would still be significantly inferior compared to your originals, so that would cut theft rates by 90% at least. The downside of this of course that this would require much more active involvement from your side, but i think the revenue would increase accordingly. You may even try to find some trustworthy friend, or relative who could take care of printing, selling, shipping business for reward. I think if i would have your talent to produce that high quality content, i would certainly try to go this route instead of "gifting" digital files to whole internet.

NikolaDoes3d wrote
NikolaDoes3d
Hey Lemonade. I think you are right. There is no good solution to a problem. The better my models get, the quicker they will get sold all over the place. The big issue is also the cgtrader search engine which puts some of my best-selling models on pages 4-5 leaving them almost invisible in Google searches. I am thinking about the DMCA route but I am not sure how effective it is, or how much it would cost. At the link that 3DCargo provided me, there seem to be two viable options: 1) full-service takedown(199$ per site) and 2)Webmaster DIY takedown (10$ per month). I wouldn't mind spending 10$ or a bit more per month but 200$ option doesn't seem to be worth it. As I said, I had moderate success taking listings down but some sites just don't care about banning users that infringe on copyright, which means that they can reupload listings again, and again. I wonder if DMCA takedown would be more effective in that sense. Also, as you said, going to the physical route(figures) for future projects makes more sense if I could find a trustworthy partner who would be doing most of the work when it comes to 3d printing(molding), packaging, and sending figures. Either way, thanks for the feedback. It is always good talking to you!
Posted 10 months ago
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Hey m8.....I get nobody likes to be ripped off and I don't mean to be an arse and I maybe wrong but I was under the illusion that many footballers owned their own image rights? Isn't that the case?

NikolaDoes3d wrote
NikolaDoes3d
Hey Jim, you are right. They do own the rights to their likeness and they can sue me and win in court if they wanted to. Still, in the same way they have rights to their likenesses, I have rights to my own design. Someone correct me if I am wrong...
jaguarbeastproduction wrote
jaguarbeastproduction
Probability of receiving a claim always remains if you don't have legally obtained permission. This is relevant for any derivative works created for making a profit.
Posted 10 months ago
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If you make molds for casting and create busts from polystone (as one of the options) this could become a source of some income. But there are also many nuances and in any case a separate room will be required. One printer (even if it is a high-quality SLA/SLS printer) is not enough, this won't pay off.

In addition, yes, in regards to whose busts/models these will be and what mood their copyright holders will be in, in a certain situation, of course, they can file a DMCA or try to receive compensation in other ways.

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