CGTrader traffic compared to TS

Hello teressio92,
I also using TS but I like CGTrader more because I sell five times more here.
My royalty rate on CGTrader is 80% and on TS I just get 40% so my models are 50% cheaper on CGTrader.
TS does not support Sketchfab 3d previews and you can't post links into the discretion.
Also the customer support is better on CGTrader.

I'm in the same boat like dennish2010. I sell much more on CGT than on TS. Maybe that's because CGT gives to seller all the tools needed to promote his goods and rewards those who use it with great exposure, while TS always hides models of newcomers and small time sellers at the very bottom of their list. If you haven't reach diamond on TS, you have no chance to see your models on the front pages of the search. It maybe true that traffic is much bigger on TS, but what's good from it if it's actively directed from my models by TS? No exposure - no sales. On TS to climb the ladder on your own is incredibly hard, almost impossible if you're small fish in the pond, while on CGT they give you helping hand, while not hurting big players at the same time. There's place for everyone here, but not on TS.

I can easily compare the traffic in CGTrader and TS. I've uploaded 2 models both in TS and here on 26th Dec 2016. Not too hi-fi models though, but still I've got 33 views and 1 like on my models till date. On the other hand TS giving me no idea about whether my models are being even seen. I know I'm new in both the places. but still it matters. So "teressio92", I'd suggest that try earning more reputation points are get more involved here. I think for you its too early to expect huge traffic specially while you currently do not have any product published. No offence friend. (And just in case ) If this whole conversation is a rig to just see actual public reaction and opinion, then I must mention that the whole setup in CGT doesn't need to be tested. :-D

With due respect to CGT Team,
SubhajitA

According to "similarweb" traffic is around 2.2 million per month on CGt and around 3.6 million on Ts, so yeah there is some difference, but we can safely say CGt is most important contender.

(https://www.similarweb.com/website/cgtrader.com#overview)
(https://www.similarweb.com/website/turbosquid.com)

!!However, the difference in cost of the platform and quality provided is immensely!!

If you see what you get on CGt and realize its least expensive platform out there, then you know some top talents are at work here, they are capable of delivering a superior platform for the fraction of the cost.

Anyways, the difference in traffic does not mean anything, for me CGt is in lead regarding sales for over last 7 months and I'm over 4 times diamond on Ts (that suppose to get you in top?).

It is day 12 this month and I sold 9 items on CGt and 3 on Ts so far.

From time to time Ts takes lead but the 60% cut means eventually less income and times Ts taking lead are diminishing.

Also don't forget the advantages you get here in long run as this platform allows for communication.
I made some good connections because of this and that provides additional opportunity's.

On Ts you will always just be a number that is pushing the grand label that is not yours.
On CGt you can work for own label and get followers and build reputation around it.

Advantages just go on and on so I really do not understand your disappointment?

hi teressio92

Based on my 8 years of experience:
CGTrader is the second in volume sales (after TS) and each year the volume of sale increases .. But for this, it is necessary to provide a minimum effort in quality and regularity of deposit of new product.

And always according to my experience, those who leave CGT come back after a few months ... so soon :)

Yes I feel the same. On TS the only times I ever sold anything was when I put my prices at 1 dollar or let people download all my models for free... That site is a pyramid scheme!

Here on CGT I am able to sell models at more reasonable prices ranging from 11 to 33. I have yet to sell anything higher than that but that is my own fault for not being good at selling and also had some models that were not quite up to standard.

Have been working to improve on all that and have seen some good increase in sales especially since CGT has been more actively promoting their models lately which is awesome!

At this very moment im typing this on a mobile device, and this site doesnt work too well on the latest mobile chrome, this is a tango tablet and my moto g4 plus has the same issue with most of the menu buttons not working, so if people have the same issue then maybe its down to not being able to use the site fully on mobile devices?

Does TS even work on Ipads or phones?

I wish i had that luck as all of you guys here.
I am a member of CGT now for 6 Months and on TS for 7 years.
In this 6 months i have 3 sales on CGT, not realy much. In the same time i have 17 on TS.
And yes, my prices on TS are up, no free products or 1$ shit. I use the same pricerange on TS as i use on CGT.
Overall, not much to make living from, but its better then nothing.

As far as i see, TS is much more friendlier to new Members. If you search for new products or for price, on TS you find your work in the right place.
On CGT you are nothing without reputation.
If you search for your products, you will find it always on the last pages, no matter for what you search.
Lucky for the old members that have benefit from the free models, to boost there reputation with thousands of points.

For me TS works at this timer better so far. Maybe in the future i could benefit more from CGT if i have more reputation.
The only good on CGT for me at this time, is the near to the customes and other artists.

A friend of mine has 35 products both on TS and CGTrader.
In just 6 months she sold 19 products on TS and 1 product on CGTrader.

Just to compare. It is true that TS pays less but sales are important, whereas CGTrader has not too much traffic.

The thing that bothers me a lot, and not just me but some of my friends, is that CGTrader deceives sellers making them believe of their promotions and marketing campaigns.

Not satisfied with CGTrader guys!!!

Well, a friend of mine owns a Lamborghini and two houses, while I take a bus to work every day. :)

To be completely honest, every seller has his/her's own experience on different selling platforms - as you can see in the replies - but others speak for themselves, while we are yet to hear from the friend of yours. Please do go ahead and let us in on more information, as this is an open place for discussion and you are of course entitled to have your own opinion.

Also, please go ahead and tell us where we have deceived the designers about any marketing campaign - if we mentioned we would be doing something and then didn't do the exact promised thing, I'll be very happy to have a public discussion on that matter! :)

If you have other notes on how we can satisfy you, again - this is a good topic for exactly that and we're all ears to suggestions. :)

Have a nice weekend!
Eddie

I have no friends who sell models on stock markets, so I will speak for myself.
I have about 50 models on TS and 80 on CGT. I'm registered on TS for 10 years and on CGT for 2 years. I feel lucky if I manage to sell more than two models per month on TS and months without sales are uncommon over there for me, i'm selling 10 - 12 models monthly over last 4 months and I haven't saleless month in 2016 over here. My sales are steadily increases on CGT, while at the same time they're steadily stalls on TS. I get 40% royalties on TS and 80% on CGT. Guess which platform I do like more...

The Social campaigns weren't actually promised in any newsletter to sellers. The Holiday Sale-off reminder stressed the duration of the holidays sale-off campaign, as well as the option to opt-in or out for every designer. Before and in-between Black Friday and Holidays sale-offs, designers received general news and announcements from forum, 3D jobs, interviews and challenges.

We were a bit more active during the Black Friday (on twitter), but not during holidays. I'll make sure we're more active during the upcoming sale-off's though, thank you for pointing that out. :)

Instead of going on social media, we focused on increasing traffic through sharing 3D models on news sites - some models featured on 3domen.com, render.ru, digitalconqurer.com, iappadapt.com and others.

We have been talking about social campaigns on other forum topics - including holiday sale topic that went on during December, do check that out.

It's a bit strange you wouldn't believe sellers who have achieved a reputation as reliable and honest in this community.

It's also a bit strange that you mention a friend with 35 models - there are 21 designers with that exact number of models, none of them have registered in the last 6 months, and none of them have exactly 1 sale.

Of course, maybe your friend already left CGT, in which case we're sorry to see her go and would like her to take another try at this community. If she wanted to have any questions regarding traffic, model quality, descriptions, render quality etc., I'm sure other fellow designers would be very happy to give her some insights and feedback.

I agree with Teressio92..
CGTrader is very poor of customers and contributors. Turbosquid has more professional stuff and traffic much higher.

Another sacred cow......

@teressio92, Believe whatever you want,

Also, you can say whatever about Ts but that platform is just way too expensive, CGtrader proves you can run a superior platform for the fraction of the cost.

People that come in here praising Ts are disregarding this fact and approve its questionable workings, even trying to justify the 60% cut because they supposedly sell more?

There is no justification for a 60% cut.

adamowillercg,

Please go ahead and elaborate if you have had a bad experience on CGTrader, as we're definitely interested in hearing on how we can improve on it.

I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I just realized 2 sales on CGT just now :) :)

Both teressio92 and adamowllercg are registered on CGT just a month ago, have no single model here, yet both knows very well that traffic is very low here, staff is incompetent and most users are bunch of liars with sole purpose to trap more innocent sellers into crual CGT hands. Those two are very well informed and definitely very trustworthy persons, yeah sure...

You all guys tell the truth like Fidel Castro Ballerinas

Well, mr. Teressio92, you are an interesting case in this forum.

We at CGTrader are definitely interested in every opinion and every feedback the community members want to provide. Even if it's a non-constructive critique of methods and everything about the marketplace as it is.
But please don't go so far as accusing other community members and proven sellers in 3D market of lying - just because you chose not to believe the numbers they were happy to provide, to have a reasonable discussion in this thread, as it is extremely insulting to everyone.

You know the saying, dare not present your success story's to the pessimist, because you will be the stink of his own failure?

We all know Ts at the beginning had very little to no competition, except from the 3D studio, but that later also went down.

Ts used its position and power to strategically squeeze people by the balls and set a hefty 60% cut on whomever did not join its exclusivity trap, it did so in the knowing there was no other place to go, and so they ensured vast majority would fall on their knees and bend over for some extra money and some medals (because most think short term).

That's why they grew so big and made it near impossible for others to com in the business and deliver a better job.

Some of us knew it was all wrong and did not fall for the trap and swept a pile of money from the table thinking by themselves one day things will change and Ts squeezing balls days will be over.

That time is now as there is genuine competition in the market and no need to bend over any more for such madness.
So I can only imagine people that are still stuck in the Ts exclusivity trap dare to come in here and vent frustrations in some form or another?

However, no one of this community is venting frustrations on Ts, you know why, because you would be out in a flick of a switch no matter how much you have contributed for years.

Anyways, it was CGtrader that saw the opportunity to deliver a better job and serve the people that refused to fall for the exclusivity traps, others hoe were trying to get some foothold in the business where also trying to capture the people with exclusivity traps, but not CGt, they held on and sat it out all the way.

That is way they earn trust and get backed up by a persistent community, even when the place gets plagued by some growing pains or bugs.

On TS my sales decreased last year so i uploaded models on CGTrader too.
And i'm glad i did it, my income in December on CGT was x4.4 times more than on TS.
This month i have x5 times more sales on CGT than on TS.
So at the moment i like CGT more than TS.
TS have 2x more 3d models than CGT i think. And if customer is here to buy product, i have 2x bigger change to sell my product.

Sells zero products - disappointed with service -> seems legit :) :) :)

IterateCGI tnx for taking time to review my models. Selling 3d models is not my base job, these are stuff sitting on my hard drive, if someone find some of my models useful that is nice, if not that is not problem.
Your comment is not answer to my sarcasam.. I am aware of my products, and trust me, even without selling any item I will be fine and I will have enough money for living.
However thank you for pointing things I can improve, over some time I will improve my products.

My comment was reaction to authors post, kind of sarcastic because noone forces you to sell on TS or on CGtrader, you are boss of your models. But, there is no sense in offending CGtrader platform for being on second place when we talk about traffic. I am sure admin and CGtrader people work hard to improve our experience. There is no need for trash talk about site.

Good luck with selling stuff and creating awesome art ;)

Cgtrader should improve and grow more and more to compete with the market!!

I think CGTrader is doing really well. Now as an artist community if we all pulled together and asked them to implement the revenue sharing idea I had a while back we could really bring the site to the next level.

What CGT is still missing is having high quality models across the board. It is still a mixed bag of some good some great and some not so great but that as I always say is neither CGT or the artist's fault.

Artist can't be expected to be good at every aspect of CG and CGT is the only site I have been on that values the opinions of it's users as well as fights for the little guy.

The only way to make the models reach the highest level across the board is through collaboration projects, which is what I have been doing for years. I create a model then get help from specialists in the areas where I struggle to raise the quality so it can actually sell.

If revenue sharing became available then more people could partner up and bring their models to standard as well as more easily promote each other's work.

If let's say 3 people all worked on a model, one did the textures, the other the model and the other the render. Now with revenue sharing each one gets a cut from the sale of the model. It becomes obvious that all 3 will do whatever they can to promote the sales of the model.
In no time the model becomes more searchable and even though all 3 artists get less per sale they may make a whole lot more in the long run by having return sales.

It is really a no brainier but unless enough artists support the idea it will not take off.

teressio92, if you are struggling in selling on CGT it is because selling 3D is hard no matter where you try selling it and you need to have lots of models... at least 100 to make any decent sales on any 3D site. That is why becoming a 3D seller is so hard for newbies!

Even if Turbosquid had more traffic it would not matter because only the artists at the top make any money on that pyramid scheme of a website.

@marvimation.. sorry but the thing you are saying is not true. CGTrader has very low traffic because they aim to create a good UX (user experience), differently from TS, whose interface looks pretty old, but CGTrader stops there. few campaigns and exhibition---

In fact they guarantee up to 80% or royalties ( have you asked why??). To do that more appetizing ...

@marvimation

this guy just want to argue, by answering him you enter his game, I'm sure he has no skill in 3D industry and never sell nothing.
The great advantage with CGTrader is that by responding to trolls, we earn points that increase our royalties :)
But don't overdo it :) :)

Yes I remember Kislak, he may have been banned from forum, but not to sell on TS. he has just 4 products and has not reached $ 500 in 4 years (regarding his level badge) :) :)

The support here is non-existent. I am a buyer that has paid for several models and they are not available for download in my history. I have tried to reach support and they ignore me. I had to go directly to the designer to get my models. What a joke.

Something tells me that someone is trying to harm GTrader by any means .. I think that CGT team had to remove this thread

I agree those people are just trying to attack CGtrader using non sense.

Probably not make too big of a deal out of it, there's a good balance of opinions here so no real need to remove the topic?

Best to presume most people are capable to judge for themselves what is useful?

Don't forget as iterate CGI also stated that comments are good... negative or positive.

Just look at Apple. They got bashed for years by all the PC people, (me included). Until they made a product like the ipad that is so good that even PC people like me caved in and are willing to use it.

What those bashers who are trying so badly to hurt CGT do not understand is that actually all their negative comments if constructive help CGT improve and if not constructive they still help CGT because people try it and find out that those comments were fake and then publicize their good experiences.

I believe CgTrader will continue to grow and improve. I prefer CGtrader because the UI is much simpler and straightforward. Traffic wise, I believe the designer can post his account link on other websites or on his namecards and such to encourage more traffic. Everyone has to do his own marketing.

Obviously, if your want to overcome the top dog, it is going to take some time and more importantly, effort. Peace.

I agree with Nixonpang!

Also more traffic does not mean good traffic. CGTrader may have less traffic but that is because they have getting rid of freeloaders and traffic from people who don't buy. Less is more. Better to have good quality traffic than freeloaders!