Beginner Seeking Answers to Several Questions

Discussion started by SkyCanvas

Hello everyone, I have made a few models so far, but I find that it takes me a lot of time to make a single model. I also want to ensure I can get better visibility and sales down the road so I am seeking help from experienced 3D artists on here. I would really appreciate if you can answer my questions with your experience with this market. Thank you :)

1) Is overlapping geometry between 2 objects a major issue? If i put a small turret on a tank model I make, and parts of the turret's geometry cross into the tank, would it be a major issue for buyers or is some overlap fine?

2) How big of an issue is it to have 3-6 n-gons in the model? Blender's Boolean modifier is kind of annoying as it creates n-gons, but i find it does get some things done fast. In your experience, has it seriously messed things up for a customer to have an n-gon or two in a game asset?

3) Is it better to upload a model with subdivision modifiers applied, or better to leave the modifier present so a customer can tweak the details? Would there be issues in downloading the model in other formats if the modifier is unapplied?

4) Is it a good idea to create and sell scenes? For example, say I make a generic office model, so you basically have a small box with office furniture inside it. Is this something a game developer or VR developer can incorporate into their projects?

5) Do you guys see there being any demand for conceptual sports cars rather than existing ones?

6) How much value does rigging a model add? I understand this can vary, but here's a few examples: a robot arm, a low-poly tiger and a car. If I sold each of these models for like $20, how much do you think rigging them could add in value?

7) Does texture map visuals and performance vary greatly across software? I make my stuff in blender, so if I make a set of very detailed textures with a highly bumpy look due to its roughness and normal maps, will customers using obj and fbx versions of my design be able to get the same visuals?

8) Can I still have copyright issues if I design a plane to resemble a popular brand, but I don't include the logo? Like I wanted to just make a generic commercial airliner, with no branding of any kind, would this still result in copyright issues as the final product resembles a trademarked design?

9) Is it unethical and/or illegal to build on top of someone else's model to cut design time? If it's been made free for commercial use, can I download/purchase a model of a plane so I have the base mesh, then change up the details to be the design I wanted? The main goal would be to have the basic stuff done so i can focus on the details, and of course i intend for the final product to look very different. Would it be wrong to do this?

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Posted 4 months ago
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#9 it depends on source model's license, but in most cases an asset that was build upon someone else's work cannot be sold on stock marketplace.

Posted 4 months ago
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1) Not an issue, common practise.

2) If you import model in to a game engine it will be always triangulated. Ngons exist only in 3D authoring apps.
So for non-subdivison game assets technically they aren't such an issue, at least not on a flat surfaces.
But.. what if your customer wants to change something.. he will have to deal with ngons instead of you.
If you have ngons in your geometry make a note about it in the description and/or
include wireframe image of that part so customers know exactly what they are buying.

3) In native file format don't apply modifiers.
In other file formats you can export it both with and without modifiers.

7) If you use pbr materials and textures and you know what you are doing it should look same in any software.
If you are using values instead of textures you can include text file/pdf with these material settings.
In game engines textures are always down-scaled and compressed so it will usually not look as crispy as in Blender but close enough.

8) If you are copying someone else design it's always copyright issue.

Posted 4 months ago
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4. Generic office model is a very bad idea.

5. Unknown how this will affect on demand but with concept models you will definitely have much less competition.

6. Adding a rig can add value only if it is a high-quality actual model with correctly configured animation.

Posted 4 months ago
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1. Some customers want visualy accurate outer surface. They don't care what is happening in invisible part of model. Some demanding customers might curse you because of excess of polygons.
2. Knowing geometry and topology is very important in 3D modeling. Try to learn how to fix n-gon issues.
3. Sometimes i upload both subdivided and subdivision ready models. This way a customer can choose whether he'll use "finished" subdivided model or he has something else in mind.
The problem may happen when you upload not-subdivided model and it is not suitable for subdividing. Therefore... Make sure that geometry and topology are suitable for the model you're providing. Make sure to emphasize in your description that model is not subdivision ready if it doesn't qualify for that purpose.
4. Scenes are the part of this market. Just make sure that all the models in the scene are made on your own.
5. Explore the market...
6. I have (maybe?) one rigged model. I'm not into rigging nor I'm willing to learn it that much to call myself a "rigger". See for yourself if you want to enter that area and be a master of it.
7. Agree with IndieArt.
8. Some companies agree with that, some companies don't. Internet is your friend.
9. Just use the blueprints from the internet. Anyone who made precize model of... anything, used either blueprints or had actual product to take measurements. I guess most modelers of plains didn't have the "actual product". If they could lay hands on blueprints, there is probably a way that you can also lay hands on blueprints.

If you're a newbie, give yourself a time. Learn. 3D modeling is not an easy task and is not quick money if you're doing it properly. It can also be very rewarding if you study it.
If you sell a "lousy" model for 2$/month, you'll get 24$/year and probably some bad reviews. If you *learn* one year how to properly make a model, you might probably sell it for 10$ or more. So... Without learning, you'll get 24$/year for one model. With learning, you can get 120$/year. One year of being patient student can give you multiple earnings in next year that will also cover the "non-selling" year. Think about it.
Also, find yourself a niche that is comfortable for you. Do you find yourself in low-poly? 3D printing? Rigging? Rendering? Animation? Simulation?

SkyCanvas wrote
thanks for the reply. I have a question about that last part. How long does it take to be good at 3D modelling? I have been at it for 6 months, but have been seeing people share their progress videos where they seem to be really good in just 3 months. I worry I'm moving a bit slow. How long, in your experience, does it really take for someone to be popping out good quality, detailed models?
jaguarbeastproduction wrote
jaguarbeastproduction
Сreate models in Fusion 360/Plasticity or similar software - months, understand topology, create subD meshes, etc. - years, sculpting and anatomy - 5 years or more.
gjuroo wrote
gjuroo
@SkyCanvas: As JaguarBeast stated, it takes at least 1-2 years of working and learning to master basics od modeling. Don't be deceived with someone's progress in "just few months". This is just a small step. Why would you think that you're slow? You have your pace and your time and line of learning. Maybe you're better in 3D than the guy you're mentioning but you just don't invest same time in learning 3D modeling. Take your time, model and learn. You'll know when you are capable of doing serious projects. First step - don't accept n-gons. Learn the way to solve this issue.
SkyCanvas wrote
Thank you for the replies, both of you. Yeah I just wanted to get a second opinion on what a realistic progress speed. I will keep at it and ensure i do my best in terms of topology
vastst wrote
vastst
hello, someone knows how can I download my own files?

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