This 3D model was originally created with Sketchup 6 and then converted to all other 3D formats. Native format is .skp 3dsmax scene is 3ds Max 2016 version, rendered with Vray 3.00 You are working on layer 3 If a cube is on layer 1, and a cylinder is on layer 2 -- both visible. You select the cube and cylinder and join them into a component or group. What is behavior when you turn off either layers 1, 2, or 3?