Disclaimers

Discussion started by summkar12

Good morning all ,

I have missed any disclaimers in ref with downloading and purchasing Military models from CG.

As some of you know , i am not an artist , nor a designer , nor do i print anything.

I collect British Military models , i aquire the files , and put it online for a print quote , and get it printed , then i paint it and it goes on my war wall , i was in HM Forces for 24 years , and was in combat in 5 different war zones , so painting my models helps deal with my PTSD.

Something like,

Due to the content of this model , you , the customer , will find in most quarters :

This model maybe unlawful in your country !

This model is maybe unprintable in your country !

A licence from your country home office , maybe required to produce this model !

and so on.....................

Believe me , i am posting this not in jest , but to inform you , the artists , that all your hard work maybe in vain , and after trying to get a quote for the printing of an assualt rifle , i now find myself under investigation by some law departments.

I have all mail sent to me , from all authorities , including some very interesting mail from 3 of the largest online 3d printing companies

Regards to all

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Posted about 5 years ago
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Quite interesting point, often we have here some discussions about copyright issues, but never heard something like this, will you elaborate a bit more on the subject?

Posted about 5 years ago
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stereomanic ,
This was a model of a L1A1 SLR rfle ,
I put it into a few online printing services for a quote on printing , here are extracts from just 2 e mails recieved
`` Hi john,
Following on your request #EQ5#166#,
I have checked the models of your request and we can't quote them.
Models intended for the weapons industry/ models resembling a weapon or models for which we have ethical concerns, like skimming devices or functional keys, don't qualify for printing. We can refuse these orders at all times. We don't print models that are in conflict with our mission and value statement.
Kind Regards,
.......................................................................................................................................................
Dear John,
Thanks for using our services. Indeed the manufacturing of this type of model is prohibited.
Your account is removed
customer services

Posted about 5 years ago
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Many thanks,
Its important to know these things for us, modelers ,as you previously stated.
Just curious, which print size asked you for? i mean I can understad they don´t want to print a true size model, but what if you ask for a miniature model?

trimitek wrote
trimitek
I think 3D print shops wouldn't want to risk touching any kind of file that can be used for making firearms, as they can be easily scaled to real size and this can be used to accuse them for printing real weapons.
summkar12 wrote
The Print size i asked for was 200mm printed in 2 pieces , butt to stalk , and barrel because of its frgility sperate, no moving parts .i do not think for 1 minute this can be mistaken for anything else rather than a model as Real....1.100 mm weight...4.96kg The action man kit has one that is 110mm Believe me , this was my personal weapon for many years and i know the difference between that and a 200mm plastic model. If print shops dont print these files , Why are they for sale on CG , as anyone with a printer , i agree could print accurate size , but if i wanted a life like weapon , there are a million retailers where you can buy a de-activated one ( barrel filled , rat and tail, firingt pin all taken
trimitek wrote
trimitek
It looks like such 3D models had started to be taken down too. Check out this thread: https://www.cgtrader.com/forum/site-suggestions-and-feedback/why-are-my-models-suspended
Posted about 5 years ago
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I´m quite sure you know what you´re talking about, and you´re right, there´s no chance to mistake a true weapon, that´s why it all sounds so strange, moreover yu´re not asking for a so detailed model wich probably would need a lot of moving parts to be functional.
Then, you´re right too , anyone with a printer can do the job provided it has the fully detailed parts files, but I doubt the models for sale in CGT have this level of detail and accuracy, mainly in the inner construction.
It all seems a way to avoid possible problems as Trimitek said

Posted about 5 years ago
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Sometimes when some dumb naive people are trying to obey some laws they are making problems to people like you (hobbyists, collectors etc).

For example few days ago here was post about "Cgtrader deleting models". Man started it after CGT deleted his models of weapons. Because it was "not just models" but CAD files . For me this situation looked very stupid and unfair (as engineer I don't see big difference between meat grinder and gun: both are objects). But lots of people have sane "ethical concerns" as 3d-printing-service-donkey.

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